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Intuitive programmed and designed computers versus computers designed for Independent logic.

The computer that you are using is designed for ease of use. It doesn't take much to sit down and figure out what you are supposed to do with it. Time and practice are what is required for it to be of full use to you. Unless you want to program something that is out side the scope of its programming. In which case, you need to have an understanding of programming.

But independent logic, is another way to go. Independent logic is the ability of a computer, to self program. To put it simply. But this says nothing about how difficult it is to use. For this is where I have my hang up. Trying to imagine a computer, that is self programming, but limited in some way. It is this set of limits upon it, that I have trouble with.

A true independent logic computer, would be random. That is, it would solve what ever problem it decides upon, of the moment. There would be no order to it. Which means that there would have to be some way to limit it, to the job at hand. This is where it gets difficult for me. How does one do that?

Lets use the constraints were in place in the 1970's due to technological limitations upon up to that point in time. The first such constraint is cost. Computers were expensive. Those at least that were of use, which means that 16 bit word size computer is the bottom end. This limits it to 65K bytes of memory, which places an upper limit on how useful it could be. If you go to mainframe sized - 32 bit computers, you blow away the mini compute market. Memory size would be 65 k 32 bit words. Or two megabytes. Why? Because memory was expensive then. Very expensive. Notice I am not counting secondary memory, which could be easily, online up to ten times the size of the primary, in either the mini computer's case or the mainframe computer's case.

But there is a problem, here. Just how much time, is there for a solution? Don't worry about the primary memory being used up for problem solving, this due to the fact that it seems to have been hard wired in. It is solution time that is the problem. That is, the time it takes to come up with a non programmed in solution. The whole point of independent logic, is to come up with a solution in place of a human programmer.

Genetic programming, is a method of searching for solution via evolution. But the problem here is one of understanding the problem in the first place. That is Garbage in, garbage out. If you don't understand, the problem in the first place, you won't find a solution to the problem. This implies that computers were only used by specialists for their needs. They had to have the ability to understand whether or not something was garbage. But this places extreme limitations on computer use.

So what is the net step?

29 Jun 2014 15:20
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The effects of this difference, could be profound.

With intuitive computing, we have computers in just about anyone's hands that want them, plus access to the internet. This means that we could have far more people communicating at any one time, on any subject matter. Meaning that any useful field of endeavor, will advance far faster than expected.

But if new designs of computer that were independent logic capable, were quite limited for sometime, then they would stay expensive, if they were of limited use. See it depends upon problem size, rather than efficient communications. Early systems would nor could be expected to handle large scale problems. That is, problem beyond the range of a given computer system. This rather makes the choices of problem solving rather draconian in nature, thus holding back some areas of interest.

The problem with independent logic, is that there could be no 'supercomputer' equivalent. The limitations of the independent logic construct, would force certain constraints for any given generation there of.

So what does this say about Duotronics? Duotronics is their equivalent to the intuitive computers that we have now. That is, it is a computer system that is finally smart enough to be of use to the Guy in the street.

01 Jul 2014 19:45
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