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Most of the time we talk about the matter-antimatter reactor, or the fusion reactors, this time it is something else. In TMoST, it is stated that the main warp engines are good for eighteen years before running out of'fuel'. The Impluse drive, has thirty days(one month) of fuel, and at full load the batteries are good for a week. But what kind of batteries???

The expectation I get from reading it several dozen times is standard chemical batteries - most likely lead/acid. But some have gone so far to say dilithium crystal based, or cold fusion, or some other method.

But what I would like to be examined, using FJ's line of thought as a starting point, is some kind of advanced lead/acid battery. From there, we should be able to determine, their out put, and hence other things.

but the primary reason to star with FJ's plans is his break down of how the batteries are assigned. Note these may only be the primary batteries, not the ones that power small equipment use...

One further note; The Galileo Seven, may argue that something else may be going on, at least with phasers vis-a-vis bateries.


25 Aug 2012 10:21
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Well, for what it's worth, the following link is to a pretty well thought out idea. http://www.treknology.org/technology1.htm But there may be a problem in that this scheme does not allow for recharging? I can't remember off hand whether the TOS "batteries" had a recharging "capacity" or not?


25 Aug 2012 12:05
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Interesting. But one problem - maintainance shouldn't be too intensive. That is, the batteries should be very simple, in nature. One of my problems with the idea of cold fusion, is that why turn it off??? a battery on the other hand, is just waiting to be discharged... Rather than started up, as in a fuel cell.

Fly wheels, in what ever form have a major issue - they tend to fly apart at some point. Further more they have problems with inertia - that is, they require some sort of device to keep them from controling the ship's motions, when it would be advisable to allow that.


25 Aug 2012 15:32
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hmm... how about powdered dilithium compressed into storage cells within an iridium/tritanium matrix... ; )

cheap... solid state... holds a charge for decades... ; )

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That sounds good. Now I seem to remember hearing about a way to store anti-matter where contact would not result in annihilation
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... e-lab.html
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?s=c ... ostcount=8


27 Aug 2012 15:29
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davros_of_borg wrote:
hmm... how about powdered dilithium compressed into storage cells within an iridium/tritanium matrix... ; )

cheap... solid state... holds a charge for decades... ; )



Well if you go on inventing new ideas.... Perhaps you will build a better mouse trap. And you know what the world says about that.


27 Aug 2012 16:09
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hmm... i just invent stuff... < shrug >


nobody's come knocking, so far... : )

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You need to advertize more then. :lol:

Looking at the FJ plans for the batteries, what are we looking at in terms of functionallity? Assuming advanced lead acid, and a weeks endurance are we looking at a series batteries for each day of the week?

Again to bring Allen Evert Enterprise Construction Plans how many batteries would it take to support 280 volts 70 amps of power for one week?


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iric... they were drawn as a series of barrel/table sized circles...

could they have been advanced flywheels (gravitic enhancement) somehow connected with the artificial gravity systems... ; )

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Which on the deck five plans shows a possibility of 1 cell 2 cell and 3 cells stacked going from the outside in...

In the last two issues of Passagemaker they have had articles on just this subject...


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